2011 has been quite a busy year with PBP and several other grand randonnees here in the USA. In looking over the various event websites, Eastern PA riders have done very well on the big rides. With the ancien tradition in mind of leading the way for others to follow later on, I've asked the participants to share their thoughts and comments on the following:
- your event and result
- what was unique or special about the event
- would you participate again
- your preparations, and anything you would do differently
- any links to pictures, ride reports, or other comments you'd like to share
Chris Nadovich kicks off this series with his report below. Although Chris has only been riding brevets for a couple of years, he has shared many miles with Bill Olsen and as a result, benefited from Bill's vast experience of riding a 1200k.
-Tom Rosenbauer
Eastern PA RBA
***************** Chris Nadovich's PBP Report ************************
I finished PBP well within the 90 hours. I rode conservatively, aiming to enjoy the experience and simply to finish without anxious time pressure. And that's exactly how it worked out. I never had less than 2 hours in the bank. I ate plenty; slept adequately; and saw enough neat stuff to last a lifetime.
Personal Note: You should know, Tom, that I never would have started PBP without your encouragement; I never would have finished PBP without your tough brevets and useful advice. Thanks for inspiring me
to have my name inscribed in the big book!
Anyway, my PBP photos are linked here and here.
I received lots of advice and other information prior to PBP. Not all of this information matched my experiences. Here's a True/False list of PBP conceptions and MIS-conceptions based on my experience.
1. PBP is easy --- FALSE
I had a lot of people tell me things like: "If you rode the PA series, then PBP will be easy." Well, although I'm very, very glad I rode the PA series, AND the tough Englewood 600K, AND beat myself up on various other brevets and "training" adventures (e.g. a Trans Am ride) in the years leading up to PBP, there is simply NO WAY that PBP seemed anything like easy. I don't think I would have finished PBP without that training. I did not spend any time "on the edge" but PBP was, never the less, a non-trivial cycling project. Part of this is doubtless the nature of any 1200K brevet, no matter what the course.
2. PBP is basically flat -- FALSE
Much of the riding reminded me of Lancaster County. Lots of long rolling hills through farmland and small towns with churches. Occasionally we'd cross more significant grades, like the grades in and out of Brest, or near Mortagne au Perche. These reminded me of riding out west -- long slogs. There was nothing equivalent to the 15-20% gaps, ravines, and glens we have here in PA, but I wouldn't call any of PBP "flat".
3. You waste a lot of time at PBP controls -- FALSE
If you are riding on the hairy edge of the control closing time, it can be a rude surprise that the place where they stamp your card is a 5 minute walk from where you park your "machine". Otherwise, I never spent more time in a control town than I wanted to. I ate delicious sit-down meals, I took showers, I slept, I drank some beers, and I chatted with riders and whatever locals would tolerate my broken French. Not a minute of it was "wasted".
4. There's no place to sleep at the controls -- FALSE
There were hundreds of open cots at Ludeac. It was a little tighter at some of the other controls, but there was always ample room. Yes, people skip the controls and sleep in the weirdest places: on medians, ditches, under tables, in phone booths, in any imaginable place. But for a mere 4 euros, I always could have a reasonable bed and a pre-arranged wake-up nudge in the "disco morgue" that is a PBP control dortoir.
5. Always ride defensively. Assume everybody else is drunk -- TRUE
This was excellent pre-PBP advice given to me by Bill Olsen. I've been to four RAGBRAIs and I've never dodged so many seemingly drunken bike riders as I encountered at PBP. Riders would swerve erratically,
making crazy lines. They'd hammer past, then put on their brakes and stop dead in the middle of the road. They'd just stand there like idiots, blocking the way. You were never safe from the "drunkards". One time I was stopped under a street light, well off the road. I was adjusting my clothes for the drizzle that had just begun when a rider rode up and stopped next to me. He opened his mouth and I thought he was going to exchange some pleasantries, but instead he bent over and puked right in front of my feet. Unbelievable!
6. Showing up a few days early is a good idea -- TRUE
It adds to the cost, but arriving on Tuesday, five days before the start, is a great plan. I had a blast touring around with other riders -- going to cafes, restaurants, tourist sites, shopping, and just hanging out in the hotel lobbies with everyone. Beyond the fun of making friends and seeing sights in a foreign country, there's advantage in getting acclimated before the actual ride. There were numerous shakedown tours organized by various groups, some of which rode nearby segments of the course. These helped me feel comfortable, and on start day I began with a couple hours of familiar riding. If I ever do PBP again, and if my schedule allows, I'll stay in France PBP celebration.
7. I'd regret choosing the 90 hour free start -- FALSE
The 90 hour free start was awesome! I lined up at 8:45 PM and was released to start at about 9:10 PM with my exact departure time recorded by the chip as my official start time. There were always groups of riders to join, but not crazy-big packs. In contrast, some people that lined up for the 90 hour mass start had to wait hours in the hot sun before starting. In many cases they were not riding till 8PM and they had to deal with all the insanity associated with giant peletons. Part of the reason the free start went so well was because only a few riders chose this option. There was no crowd. Still, the PBP officials were very efficient with the free starts. I expect that the free start will remain and will still be a very good option in 2015.
8. The French people are wonderfully supportive -- TRUE
There's no way to adequately describe the depth and breadth of support you get from ordinary people. There are people literally everywhere cheering you on. Day, night, sun, rain, in town or out in the middle of nowhere, there are people cheering "Bonne Route!". A little girl handed me a bunch of fresh flowers, at night, in a drizzly fog. She said "Bon Courage, Monsieur." Things like that just melt your heart.
9. Language would not be a problem -- TRUE
I have studied French, and can read it pretty well, but like anybody who's never used their "book language" to talk to actual people, I was initially shy to speak. That reluctance evaporated after some sleep deprivation and on PBP I was yapping away in pidgin French with wanton abandon to whomever would listen. Not that it mattered. Doubtless my Franglais babbling was incomprehensible to everyone -- especially my attempts at French versions of phrases like: "Where the !%#^&* did Claus hide our drop bags?" In general, pointing at things and looking pathetic were enough to get me whatever I needed.
10. Des Peres Travel does a good job -- FALSE
Knowing what I know now, I would never have booked my plane tickets through Des Peres. Yes, he can save you a few pennies here and there with "group rates" but I did not see Des Peres lift one finger to help
anybody in the least when we all needed to rebook because of the storm. I expected travel arrangements to be "pay and forget", with the Des Peres handling rebooking and contingencies (possibly charging extra fees), but that's not how it was. We bought group packages entirely at our own risk, and were effectively on our own thereafter. This was problematic because group tickets cannot be easily altered by anyone other than the group organizer. If I return to PBP, I'll buy my own airline ticket direct from an airline. Even for the hotel, bus, and drop bag, I'd think twice before using Des Peres again.
-Chris Nadovich, PBP 2011 finisher
PA Randonneurs PBP FAQ
Friday, September 16, 2011
Saturday, July 23, 2011
PA Randonneurs' PBP Reflective Vest Update #2
The PA Randonneurs' PBP reflective vests have been shipped. If you haven't received your order, please contact me ASAP. For those of you who did not opt for shipping, you can pick up your order at the upcoming 200k events on July 30 and August 13. The current order status is:
http://users.rcn.com/trosenbauer/PBP_VestOrder.pdf
We have the following extra PBP-compliant vests available for ordering or size exchanges:
Size/Qty
-M/3
-L/5
-XL/3
-XXL/3
The remaining vests are all yellow, and branded with the PA Randonneurs logo, as shown here:
http://pbpfaq.blogspot.com/2011/07/pa-randonneurs-reflective-vests-have.html
Contact me at trosenbauer@rcn.com if you'd like to place an order or exchange a size.
-Tom Rosenbauer
Eastern PA RBA
http://users.rcn.com/trosenbauer/PBP_VestOrder.pdf
We have the following extra PBP-compliant vests available for ordering or size exchanges:
Size/Qty
-M/3
-L/5
-XL/3
-XXL/3
The remaining vests are all yellow, and branded with the PA Randonneurs logo, as shown here:
http://pbpfaq.blogspot.com/2011/07/pa-randonneurs-reflective-vests-have.html
Contact me at trosenbauer@rcn.com if you'd like to place an order or exchange a size.
-Tom Rosenbauer
Eastern PA RBA
Monday, July 4, 2011
PA Randonneurs Reflective Vests Have Arrived
The PA Randonneurs reflective vests have arrived. The vests will be sent via US mail to those who requested home delivery. Please let Ron (rwanderson@optonline.net) if you need the vest for a brevet right away, such as the NJ Catskills 600K, and he will get them in the mail first. Vests will also be available for pick up at the next PA Randonneurs event which is the PA R-12 Hawks Nest 200K brevet scheduled for 7/30.
Wednesday, June 15, 2011
Patience Required
Unlike many web-based processes, PBP registration does not provide instant gratification to which we've grown accustomed. Once you have completed your registration, entered your homologation numbers, and paid your money, you will still need to wait for the folks at ACP to review your submission before you'll receive your Frame Number. This should occur in the next couple of weeks. Patience, Grasshopper. Patience.
Friday, June 10, 2011
Reflective Vest Order Update
We just received word from the manufacturer in France that the PA Randonneurs reflective vest order should be shipped from their factory in France to the PA Randonneurs on June 17, 2011. Hopefully the vests will arrive by the end of June.
Check back for more updates as further information becomes available. We will send out an email to everyone once the vests arrive.
Check back for more updates as further information becomes available. We will send out an email to everyone once the vests arrive.
Tuesday, June 7, 2011
Registration Draws Nearer
The latest PBP registration information from Mark Thomas:
Registration for PBP opens Saturday, June 11 (Paris time) - or Friday afternoon in the US. Because the US did not fill up its quota of entries during the pre-registration process, ALL riders can register at this time regardless of pre-registration status. (Over 200 spaces are left as of the morning of 6/7).
New 2011 riders (and any other rider that did not complete a brevet in 2010) do NOT have to wait until preregistration places free up on June 20.
Preregistered riders must complete their registration at this time. Ideally, they would do so before pre-registrations are released after June 19, but our quota status may make that less important. In all events, registration must be completed before July 17.
As cautioned before, everything from me or anyone else at RUSA about PBP is unofficial. RUSA does not manage PBP. Official ACP information on PBP registration can be found here
http://www.paris-brest-paris.org/pbp2011/index2.php?lang=en&cat=inscription&page=comment_sinscrire2
and here
http://www.paris-brest-paris.org/pbp2011/index2.php?lang=en&cat=randonnee&page=reglement
(especially Articles 5-7)
We have not seen the registration form, but here's my best guess as to what to have available when you go online to register:
(1) The homologation (certificate) numbers for at least three of your four qualifying brevets; i.e., your 200, 300, 400, 600 brevets in 2011 (or longer, if you are substituting a longer brevet for a shorter). If you don't have all four, you must add the last one by the time registration closes on 7/17.
(2) A credit card to make payment for the ride.
(3) For pre-registered riders, please also have the Dossier Number (US-###) and password from your pre-registration. Check your confirmation email from you preregistration for these. If you can't find them, contact me for help.
To get the homologation (certificate) numbers for your brevets in the US, you can go to the RUSA results search page. From www.rusa.org, select "Search For . . . Results" from the left hand menu. Enter your RUSA number to get your results. If the certificate number is blank, that means that RUSA has not yet received the certificate number for that event from the ACP.
For your information, the process that results in certificate numbers being posted on the website is not instantaneous. First, your RBA needs to submit the results to RUSA. Then the RUSA brevet coordinator (me) batches those up and submits them to the ACP. Then the ACP numbers the results and sends a spreadsheet back to RUSA. Then the RUSA brevet coordinator posts those numbers to the website.
If a qualifying brevet was done outside the US, you will have to contact the organizer for the certificate number.
Once registration starts and we see the actual form being used, we can update this information with any other registration requirements.
Mark
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Some other notes:
1. Be certain of your desired start group when beginning the registration process. It is unlikely that you will be able to change it once your registration is complete.
2. The RBAs and Mark Thomas are taking steps to expedite certification of ACP results from now until registration closes. If you haven't yet completed your qualifying series, rest easy. RUSA will make sure that your results are posted as quickly as possible.
3. Don't neglect your training in June & July simply because you've completed your qualifying series. Most regions have brevets scheduled in June and July to help you. Take advantage of these opportunities so you'll be in top form come August 21 and have an enjoyable and memorable PBP.
Andrew
Registration for PBP opens Saturday, June 11 (Paris time) - or Friday afternoon in the US. Because the US did not fill up its quota of entries during the pre-registration process, ALL riders can register at this time regardless of pre-registration status. (Over 200 spaces are left as of the morning of 6/7).
New 2011 riders (and any other rider that did not complete a brevet in 2010) do NOT have to wait until preregistration places free up on June 20.
Preregistered riders must complete their registration at this time. Ideally, they would do so before pre-registrations are released after June 19, but our quota status may make that less important. In all events, registration must be completed before July 17.
As cautioned before, everything from me or anyone else at RUSA about PBP is unofficial. RUSA does not manage PBP. Official ACP information on PBP registration can be found here
http://www.paris-brest-paris.org/pbp2011/index2.php?lang=en&cat=inscription&page=comment_sinscrire2
and here
http://www.paris-brest-paris.org/pbp2011/index2.php?lang=en&cat=randonnee&page=reglement
(especially Articles 5-7)
We have not seen the registration form, but here's my best guess as to what to have available when you go online to register:
(1) The homologation (certificate) numbers for at least three of your four qualifying brevets; i.e., your 200, 300, 400, 600 brevets in 2011 (or longer, if you are substituting a longer brevet for a shorter). If you don't have all four, you must add the last one by the time registration closes on 7/17.
(2) A credit card to make payment for the ride.
(3) For pre-registered riders, please also have the Dossier Number (US-###) and password from your pre-registration. Check your confirmation email from you preregistration for these. If you can't find them, contact me for help.
To get the homologation (certificate) numbers for your brevets in the US, you can go to the RUSA results search page. From www.rusa.org, select "Search For . . . Results" from the left hand menu. Enter your RUSA number to get your results. If the certificate number is blank, that means that RUSA has not yet received the certificate number for that event from the ACP.
For your information, the process that results in certificate numbers being posted on the website is not instantaneous. First, your RBA needs to submit the results to RUSA. Then the RUSA brevet coordinator (me) batches those up and submits them to the ACP. Then the ACP numbers the results and sends a spreadsheet back to RUSA. Then the RUSA brevet coordinator posts those numbers to the website.
If a qualifying brevet was done outside the US, you will have to contact the organizer for the certificate number.
Once registration starts and we see the actual form being used, we can update this information with any other registration requirements.
Mark
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Some other notes:
1. Be certain of your desired start group when beginning the registration process. It is unlikely that you will be able to change it once your registration is complete.
2. The RBAs and Mark Thomas are taking steps to expedite certification of ACP results from now until registration closes. If you haven't yet completed your qualifying series, rest easy. RUSA will make sure that your results are posted as quickly as possible.
3. Don't neglect your training in June & July simply because you've completed your qualifying series. Most regions have brevets scheduled in June and July to help you. Take advantage of these opportunities so you'll be in top form come August 21 and have an enjoyable and memorable PBP.
Andrew
Wednesday, May 25, 2011
May 25 Update
Mark Thomas has offered a few reminders to PBP aspirants concerning upcoming registration deadlines:
May 29 - Preregistration for riders who rode a 200km ACP brevet (or longer) in 2010
- Starts midnight Paris time (6pm on 5/28 here on the east coast)
June 11 - Registration begins (presumably midnight Paris time, so evening of 6/10 here)
- Preregistered riders start final registration
- Non-preregistered riders may also register if there are quota spaces available (likely)
June 19 - Pre-registered riders lose their priority space if not yet registered
- This may free up national quota to allow more non-preregistered riders to register on June 20
July 17 - Registration deadline
- Riders who registered without all of their 2011 brevet homologation numbers must provide them by July 17
As of May 24, 442 US riders had completed their registerations. Due to the projected US totals, RUSA returned 50 pre-registration spaces to the ACP for use by other countries. The total US allocation is now 669. There are still plenty of spaces available for those wanting to ride PBP.
May 29 - Preregistration for riders who rode a 200km ACP brevet (or longer) in 2010
- Starts midnight Paris time (6pm on 5/28 here on the east coast)
June 11 - Registration begins (presumably midnight Paris time, so evening of 6/10 here)
- Preregistered riders start final registration
- Non-preregistered riders may also register if there are quota spaces available (likely)
June 19 - Pre-registered riders lose their priority space if not yet registered
- This may free up national quota to allow more non-preregistered riders to register on June 20
July 17 - Registration deadline
- Riders who registered without all of their 2011 brevet homologation numbers must provide them by July 17
As of May 24, 442 US riders had completed their registerations. Due to the projected US totals, RUSA returned 50 pre-registration spaces to the ACP for use by other countries. The total US allocation is now 669. There are still plenty of spaces available for those wanting to ride PBP.
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